Linus was right. - ECC Memory Explained

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  • Davnar Ragnar

    Davnar Ragnar

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    Are you running your ecc in quad channel? If not, no point.

  • Jürgen Erhard

    Jürgen Erhard

    2 օր առաջ

    The "COSMIC RAYS" moment should have used Kirby Dots (AKA Kirby Krackle). But then, I *am* an old (literally) Marvel nerd.

  • M. B.

    M. B.

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    I'm gonna trying ecc. Fusion 360 and Inventor crashes at daily base. Could it be so instability in software? Or is it memory instability? Any advising or suggestions about it?

  • DataLog

    DataLog

    6 օր առաջ

    Cosmic rays are usually the reason.
    They are unstoppable and unpredictable and pack a ton of energy.

  • Scratchy Nougat

    Scratchy Nougat

    9 օր առաջ

    8:00 - me trying to run something be like

  • Mittke88

    Mittke88

    12 օր առաջ

    Just buy Sennheiser HD 600. Thank me later.

  • Milosz Ostrow

    Milosz Ostrow

    12 օր առաջ

    ECC memory should have been implemented on personal computers by the late 1980s. It would have made microcomputing a couple of orders of magnitude more reliable, but only slightly more expensive.

  • Antonio Barbosa

    Antonio Barbosa

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    ECC is just for stability and reliability I love it. I have a Xeon workstation with ECC and wouldn't want it any other way. It is good to know that AMD allows it... it is great to know actually :)

  • Diconica Bastion

    Diconica Bastion

    15 օր առաջ

    ECC "can" be about 2% slower. Also given you get about 1 correction every 14 to 40 hours per gigabit of dram the odds of it happening in that crucial spot that causes a system crash or anything else important is slim to none. I'm not saying it isn't important just that for most people it probably isn't going to be noticeable

  • Teliko Freedman

    Teliko Freedman

    16 օր առաջ

    8:45 "Thanks Linnus!"
    Wait that's how you pronounce your name?
    I always read it like Lai-nus.

  • ArceusPlaysGames

    ArceusPlaysGames

    17 օր առաջ

    Praise AMD

  • Prof.Haterade

    Prof.Haterade

    18 օր առաջ

    remember when ECC was cheaper than reg ram? ahh, the past times when buying computer components wasnt the price of a car.. those were the days

  • Gork Skoal

    Gork Skoal

    18 օր առաջ

    lol that has to be one weird sentence. Linus is was right about Linus being right. Ok so does that meen the Dude talks like the Rock? oh right one is the Linux guy the other is..ok so kind of the Linux guy. hmm Linus BreaksStuff vs Linus ProgramsStuff. their we go.

  • Michael N/A

    Michael N/A

    21 օր առաջ

    THANKS LINUS!!!! adjusting accordingly.

  • SC0RePIO

    SC0RePIO

    21 օր առաջ

    YES cosmic rays are bad - both for living biology & other electrically driven processes like computing.

  • What

    What

    22 օր առաջ

    Did anyone else see the reflection in the 2080?

  • Karan Singh

    Karan Singh

    22 օր առաջ

    8:55 are those rocks from Luke's pc?

  • Socialie plate

    Socialie plate

    23 օր առաջ

    yo, LTT talking about their father

  • kebien6020

    kebien6020

    23 օր առաջ

    1:48 [CC] parody data (not auto-generated)
    I mean. You can kind of bend the meaning of parody to make this work. But you probably meant parity.

  • Luc Timmerman

    Luc Timmerman

    23 օր առաջ

    Clickbait: titling your video after a famous person who you anecdote in the title

  • Glenn Roundy

    Glenn Roundy

    23 օր առաջ

    I would purchase ECC memory for my gaming rig if it could reach speeds of 3600mhz to 4000

  • SCALITY

    SCALITY

    25 օր առաջ

    In the beginning, ECC was standard.

  • Matthew Suffidy

    Matthew Suffidy

    26 օր առաջ

    Too bad they oc'd the cpu so it is blowing the memory to Swiss cheese anyway.

  • LAB Johnson

    LAB Johnson

    26 օր առաջ

    Linus propaganda

  • djd14d

    djd14d

    27 օր առաջ

    I dont appreciate that you are trashing richard stallman and the entire gnu community, including me by attributing all our work to linus who only made the kernel. Please call it what it is, Gnu/linux

  • Jeronimo Torres

    Jeronimo Torres

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    The problem of ecc is the price. I have a Intel Server and a amd gaming rig. The memory of the server is double the price of the memory of my gaming rig.

  • Kornolex

    Kornolex

    29 օր առաջ

    Yes.. Torvalds was making a point about re-inventing the wheel in a shape of a rectangle just for the monetization.. We see this trend everywhere... people fall short, so they dig a hole for you to climb out of... of course they have the ladder..for a modest "fee". This is gain trough prohibiting the human development. Essentially anti-human behavior.

    • Kornolex

      Kornolex

      29 օր առաջ

      One could argue that facing an obstacle make us engage more.. but thats just throwing canes between the spokes so you can sell a bandage.

  • Michael Lenczewski

    Michael Lenczewski

    29 օր առաջ

    Two of my three fav. Famous Linuses. Good video!

  • TheVirtualiser

    TheVirtualiser

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  • Inspirationfree

    Inspirationfree

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    I’ve been building machines with RAID 0+1 and ECC since 2002. Simply because I ran my CPU to render 3D art

  • Hexa

    Hexa

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    "Linus was right" and
    "RMS was right" are slowly becoming household names/phrases.

  • Valentin Kozin

    Valentin Kozin

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    When I was freelancing doing videos the render crashed so many times because the memory overheating (had to put an extra cooler for memory itself). Then I moved to the new platform with tons of ECC memory... and stoped making videos at all! :(

  • Wupadupa

    Wupadupa

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    wait so facebook doesn't have gamers backs?

  • xxxblackvenomxxx

    xxxblackvenomxxx

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    ECC.. well, it's more expensive and doesnt only protects so much against failure. it *can* still happen, although at a much reduced rate. for gaming rigs it doesnt really pay. still, one should be able to use it, if he needs it. there's no use to have to go to workstation/server platforms.

  • GatoEpico

    GatoEpico

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    i heard hamming code saved space tech all the time , a little mistake and things can be destroyed , get lost in space or if tripulated by people they could have died.
    Im learning about it in the uni and keep failing the examns of it all the time.

  • mlslfit138

    mlslfit138

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    Warning!
    I installed one of these modules (followed Linus's link) into my Asrock x570 steel legend (yes it has explicit support), and... it kind of worked. It was giving correctable and eventually uncorrectable errors (so yes, ECC was in fact working) until I bumped the voltage to 1.3v. It survived all torture tests after that at the default speed (3200mhz). Any attempt to increase the frequency resulted in a crash, so it operates right at the edge of tolerance.
    But, all was not well. The only problem that I'm having with this module installed is that it frequently refuses to reboot. Booting, and shutting down works fine, but rebooting often fails. I tried lowering the freqs to 2666, and still the problem persists. Bad module? I just asked newegg for a return-refund. :(

  • Bert Visscher

    Bert Visscher

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    1:03 Do they finally have a Linux version?

  • Alpheus Madsen

    Alpheus Madsen

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    I thought this was going to be about NVidia, which generated the birdie that illustrated the video. (Linus Torvolds was right about that, too!)

  • filip_boucek

    filip_boucek

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    i need that cpu pillow

  • Smart Tech Muhamad Shokry

    Smart Tech Muhamad Shokry

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    Well done 👍

  • dabartos

    dabartos

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    this is outrageous! As a gamer I have to eat doritos now? I like potato chips, I don't want to switch

  • Joost

    Joost

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    So I guess ECC will come with RGB soon

  • Budman

    Budman

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    I thought that was sam hyde in the thumbnail lmao

  • 8yter

    8yter

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    Intel cut ECC support for consumer i3 and Pentium Gold since the 10th gen. They want me buying the Xeon W-1250, but I need a lower power CPU and the fun fact: The W-12xx are hard to get. So how can I send my money to Intel if they don't want it?

  • ruediix

    ruediix

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    Linus Torvalds "Charming", ROFL.
    I'm a Linux nerd and I think Linus Torvalds can be a bit blunt sometimes to put it lightly.
    Linus Torvalds went with the Monolithic kernel for Linux to prove a point. That's how "Charming" he is.

  • Eric Lopez

    Eric Lopez

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    I got ECC RAM in my work computer and dual core xeon. I love my work computer! I believe my work machine is RDIMM

  • Tristan Draper

    Tristan Draper

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    So give it about 6 months before AMD's ECC can out perform non-ECC got it

  • joel gilbert

    joel gilbert

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    i can almost hear the word glasswire when he says "sponsor"

  • Paul S

    Paul S

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    Some day soon (I hope) Linus, you'll come over from the dark side and focus more on the OS that your namesake has built for you :-D

  • ArtisChronicles

    ArtisChronicles

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    I've had memory crashes that could've been avoided with ECC lol

  • Default

    Default

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    hey linus ecc is actualy cheaper and a lot in ddr3 on aliexpress if you can bare the 1month delivery of course, and memory crashes come on... a ddr4 memory crash for any of us? a pc crash caused by ddr4 memory is equaly likely than a fridge falling from the sky at your car at 1.december 2035, ecc is great for editors of big projects or for servers but for gamers? nah dont bather buying it it wont make a difference

  • Photodeus

    Photodeus

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    My next system is gonna be any decently priced CPU+Mobo that supports ECC. No matter the cost... well, hopefully at not too much extra cost.

  • ThexWITCHxMaster

    ThexWITCHxMaster

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    If I want to overclock my memory I just cut on XMP and call it a day.

  • ThexWITCHxMaster

    ThexWITCHxMaster

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    3:06. Its me 😮...

  • Free Lance Russian Shill

    Free Lance Russian Shill

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    Imagine not commenting: ""“Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “YouTube is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “YouTube is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "music" "dj" "love" "rap" rapmusic" "rapper"

  • *Hérétic

    *Hérétic

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    losing a few fps ... oh not ready for that.

  • rommel pangilinan

    rommel pangilinan

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    thanks man

  • Erik Viborg

    Erik Viborg

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    Love the selfie reflection in the 2080 super :D

  • Heinrich Kreuser

    Heinrich Kreuser

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    09:00 but do they work on Linux?

  • Yeetor Yeetor

    Yeetor Yeetor

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    This is why I don’t watch Linus much anymore, it feels like he just bashes on Intel in most of his videos. Now I understand AMD makes good products but, it get annoying hearing Intel succ AMD goog every vid

  • HEAVY UNIT NOOB

    HEAVY UNIT NOOB

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    5:37 That reflection is good

  • Doki Bubó

    Doki Bubó

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    nvidia fucked with everybody.hail to amd!

  • ronsum

    ronsum

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    1:48 "Parody data" in CC, lol

  • martixy

    martixy

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    "Parody data", what? Who does these subtitles, and how do you fix them?

  • Julian Vincent

    Julian Vincent

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    The furry furtive oven peroperatively number because wasp incidentally crash after a absorbing hub. old, momentous napkin

  • Antidote Harry

    Antidote Harry

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    Beard, beenie and a hoodie, are you a drug addict, linus?

  • Rider0fBuffalo

    Rider0fBuffalo

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    Don't buy a car that has a drive computer without ecc.

  • James Wilson

    James Wilson

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    If you're hosting a game like ark even in a non-dedicated session this can reduce crashes.

  • Arno nümuss

    Arno nümuss

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    I'm running my R5 3600 with 64GB of micron single rank ecc ram.
    One more advantage to the stability is, that it runs 3200Mt/s at 1.2V and stays perfectly cool without the need for heat spreaders.
    The standard voltage also has the advantage, that it runs the 3200Mt/s stock without having to use D.O.C.P. .
    And it might be more gentle to the cpu's memory controller.

  • WaterSpecteclz

    WaterSpecteclz

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    Wait Wait Wait hol' up. is that a crunchyroll hat?

  • Jens Wrba

    Jens Wrba

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    128gb of ram, pffff i am working on a server right now, i want to adress, quite cheap one still, that has also 128gb of ram, but still 20 slots empty, and it could also take another cpu too...

  • logan holmberg

    logan holmberg

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    ECC is not worth the price. Especially in Workstations. I'm managing 20 CAD stations in my workplace I switched out from ECC to regular PC memory and none of my users notice a difference in performance or crashes. And my tracking proves this out over the past 8 years. Save the money and put it to something else (another stick of ram maybe?) or get a thumbs up from your boss for saving a few hundred bucks on the new workstations you purchased under budget.

  • ANIS BENZ

    ANIS BENZ

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    Linus Torvalds video in Linus Tech Tips channel lmao

  • Aaron SemlerPDX

    Aaron SemlerPDX

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    8:36 "But if you want the utmost instability..." haha!

  • Anik Samiur Rahman

    Anik Samiur Rahman

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    Thanks, Linus! And Linus Torvald! I didn't even know about ECC b4!

  • Mariusz Podlesny

    Mariusz Podlesny

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    1:47 "parody data" ?!? Eeee... What? :) I think that might be "parity data". "Parody" is current overall supply situation...

  • Jani Palonen

    Jani Palonen

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    Anyone who has edited IPB h264 4k or any other highly compressed codec in premiere knows the quality of life that ECC brings.

  • Mike Bruzzone

    Mike Bruzzone

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    mb

  • TheBrazilRules

    TheBrazilRules

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    I was watching this whole video thinking "Who cares?"

  • Lucas Cunha Rocha

    Lucas Cunha Rocha

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    of fucking course it was pannenkoek who discovered it...

  • Najd Al-Oqaili

    Najd Al-Oqaili

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    Why ECC ram have better performance and faster than the one without ECC?

  • Pierre C

    Pierre C

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    The fact that there is no distinction between executable code and data means that your program could jump at the wrong address and crash the system by jumping just about anywhere.

  • Jeremy Pegan

    Jeremy Pegan

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    Inverted bits are the worst. Ask Bruce Jenner.

  • corason live

    corason live

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    #FUNVIDIA !!!

  • Pyrolight

    Pyrolight

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    50 bucks more? nooooooooooooooooope waste of money.

  • Alex K.

    Alex K.

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    Linus Torvalds is one of my tech heroes.

  • NewCalipso Delavara

    NewCalipso Delavara

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    Linus is right that Linus was right.

  • Big Cazza

    Big Cazza

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    me running tREFI at 65535 and tRFC at 220
    ecc who?

  • lerlerler1

    lerlerler1

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    On average pc this kind of errors happen once a three years man.

  • A true meme master

    A true meme master

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    Since i use Linux this ecc memory compatibility will be useful for compiling code without ending up with a failed binary executable

    • vaino

      vaino

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      will it really... i mean it probably would like twice in your life but i think you've got some bigger problems if all your code is resulting in a failed executable lol

  • iPan Zer0

    iPan Zer0

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    Well everyone is into building their own server now adays, its only logical to make ecc available to every device.

  • Joe Craft

    Joe Craft

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    I run a minecraft server off my computer. Wishing for better single thread cpu, Or Minecraft becoming multi thread. I allocate about 10 of my 16 gb of ram(not a big server). If my ram is not working properly, I find out really quickly.

  • tom joe

    tom joe

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    The chemical step-son hemodynamically trace because bankbook technologically talk onto a acid children. few fierce, literate thomas

  • coladict

    coladict

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    Do memory errors ever happen if the stick is not defective?

  • Nicholas Gawler-Collins

    Nicholas Gawler-Collins

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    I thought Linus was talking about himself.

  • arsssis

    arsssis

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    “Utmost instability, thanks AMD” wow.... slip of the tongue there? Must have been lost in the post...

  • Duane Locsin

    Duane Locsin

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    Intels on a roll...down the hill.

  • Mason Reppeto

    Mason Reppeto

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    I wanted to upgrade from a i-5 quad to an i-7 but the new LGA 1151 slot isn't compatible with the old one. so the new CPU won't work on the old motherboard xd. I ended up giving my pc to my uncle cause his was dying and built myself a solid rig with a Ryzen 7 2700X and a RX 5500 XT graphics card along with 16gb of ram. Man 8GB cards have gotten cheap, I got the card for 200 bucks at best buy. It ain't the best card but it performed pretty decently. never buying intel again lol.

  • James Gyoke

    James Gyoke

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    wtf is he talking about

  • SR IRL

    SR IRL

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    Hey Linus, can you sell me a 3090?
    worth a shot